Saturday, May 27, 2006
U.S. State Department: Armenian Genocide Didn't Happen
Here's a ahistoricality event of interest, according to the State Department reminding the Turks of their nation's past crimes, which the Turkish government denies ever happened, is grounds for dismissal. While America is supposed to bear the guilt for every unhappy event in world history, the Other (everyone who is not white) will always receive a pass:
On the diplomatic level, this cowardly act sends a strong message of weakness, which is the only kind Bush can send of late. Clinton should make another trip, and this time take Bush along.
Hat tip: Dhimmi Watch.
Update, 5/28: Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald has posted on our leaders' ongoing refusal to identify the enemy, which includes this statement:
Read the whole thing.
Over 60 Members of Congress, led by Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA), sent a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice asking for clarification on reports of U.S. Ambassador to Armenian John Evans’ recall over his forthright remarks about the Armenian Genocide, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA).
The Administration has recalled Amb. Evans over his February 2005 statements at Armenian American community functions, during which he properly characterized the Armenian Genocide as ‘genocide.’ Following his statements, Amb. Evans was apparently forced to issue a statement clarifying that his references to the Armenian Genocide were his personal views and did not represent a change in US policy. He subsequently issued a correction to this statement, replacing a reference to the genocide with the word “tragedy.” The American Foreign Service Association, which had planned to honor Amb. Evans with the “Christian A. Herter Award,” recognizing creative thinking and intellectual courage within the Foreign Service, reportedly rescinded the award following pressure from the State Department a few days before Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan traveled to Washington, DC to meet with President Bush.
On the diplomatic level, this cowardly act sends a strong message of weakness, which is the only kind Bush can send of late. Clinton should make another trip, and this time take Bush along.
Hat tip: Dhimmi Watch.
Update, 5/28: Jihad Watch Board Vice President Hugh Fitzgerald has posted on our leaders' ongoing refusal to identify the enemy, which includes this statement:
And now that the same madness is reflected in the State Department. Had Ambassador John Evans, the U.S. Ambassador to Armenia who was fired for referring to the Armenian genocide, not been forced to apologize for speaking the truth, had he not been forced to resign, had Turkish protests been met with steely indifference, it would have been good for American relations with Turkey. The Turks must in any number of ways be made to realize that a series of events has demonstrated that Turkey is not the ally that the United States thought it was....
It was important to signal to both Armenia and Turkey that the genocide would be called what it is. It was important for Ambassador Evans to be celebrated. It was even more important to begin to tell the Turkish government and people that they have to face up to this history, and in so doing, should put the blame right where it belongs: not on some fault inherent in Turks, but on Islam, which made Muslim Turks willing to massacre Christian Armenians whom they deemed in violation of their dhimma. In that way, secularist Turks can claim that in taming or distancing themselves from Islam, they have tried to tame the ideological source for those mass murders in 1894-96 and then the later genocide (in its intent and scope, by many of those involved) of 1915-1920.
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# posted by Grant Jones @ 3:02 PM 
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"...in April, 2001, before an official visit to Turkey, (Shimon) Peres was quoted as saying, 'We reject attempts to create a similarity between the Holocaust and the Armenian allegations. Nothing similar to the Holocaust occurred. What the Armenians went through is a tragedy, but not genocide.'"
I think I'm remembering reading here that the (largely successful) attempts to kill off the Native Americans weren't genocide either...according to some.
Speaking as a ¼ Native American, I remain unimpressed...
Speaking as a ¼ Native American, I remain unimpressed...
"I think I'm remembering reading here that the (largely successful) attempts to kill off the Native Americans weren't genocide either...according to some."
If you're equating the Jewish holocaust or the Armenian genocide at the hands of Muslims with the settling of American and the Indian Wars, I would say that you are engaging in a massive case of context dropping. And of course you are playing into the hands of the Leftists who argue that America is based on genocide, racism, etc. Further, you're being one quarter Indian is not an argument. The idea that one's ideas derive from one's racial or collective history is thouroughly racist and in fact quite Marxist (at least if one traces the origins of such ideas).
If you're equating the Jewish holocaust or the Armenian genocide at the hands of Muslims with the settling of American and the Indian Wars, I would say that you are engaging in a massive case of context dropping. And of course you are playing into the hands of the Leftists who argue that America is based on genocide, racism, etc. Further, you're being one quarter Indian is not an argument. The idea that one's ideas derive from one's racial or collective history is thouroughly racist and in fact quite Marxist (at least if one traces the origins of such ideas).
I'll add that America has done more that sufficient groveling and apoligizing for her historical sins, real and imagined.
Now, everyone else needs to step up the the bar, and stop with their chronic America bashing.
Now, everyone else needs to step up the the bar, and stop with their chronic America bashing.
Gjournal:
Simple numbers; more millions of Native Americans were killed in this country than Jews in the Holocaust. Did I say America was based on genocide? No, but it definitely played a part in her history.
FYI, Indians come from Asia...and it isn't racist to identify with one's heritage, it's perfectly natural. YMMV...
Simple numbers; more millions of Native Americans were killed in this country than Jews in the Holocaust. Did I say America was based on genocide? No, but it definitely played a part in her history.
FYI, Indians come from Asia...and it isn't racist to identify with one's heritage, it's perfectly natural. YMMV...
Gjournal: to avoid unnecessary aggravation, any chance you could summarise what you see as the major differences please?
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